------------------------------------------ -- EZ A SZÁM CSAK TEXT FORMÁBAN LÉTEZIK -- ------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 91 22:48:20 EST Subject: *** TIPP *** #246 Tartalomjegyzek: ---------------- Felado : hollosi%helios.ucsc.edu@ucscc.ucsc.edu Temakor : hianylista Felado : hollosi%helios.ucsc.edu@ucscc.ucsc.edu Temakor : Hmmm Felado : hidas@cernvm.bitnet Temakor : felolvadt mirelit Felado : szidar@tucson.sie.arizona.edu Temakor : London =============================================== Felado : hollosi%helios.ucsc.edu@ucscc.ucsc.edu Beerkezett: Sat Feb 23 22:48:17 EST 1991 Temakor : hianylista - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Az uj TIPP/FORUM/MAHAL archivum felallitasahoz kerlek, ha megvan az alabbi szamok valamelyike, kuldd el a SZAMAT nekem egy rovid levelben (ROVIDEN). SEMMIKEPPEN NE MAGAT AZ UJSAGOT, MERT AZ ORIASI TULTERHELES!!! Majd valaszolni fogok, hogy ki melyik szamot kuldje el a jelentkezok kozul. Koszonom. jozsi. forum: 12, 14, 20, 26, 27, 34, 41 tipp: 1, 11-18, 20, 45-47, 50, 73, 76, 82, 85-88, 90-93, 95, 97, 99, 100, 102, 103, 105, 109, 113-123, 125, 130 mahal: 1-3, 7, 8, 10-15, 17, 19-21, 25 =============================================== Felado : hollosi%helios.ucsc.edu@ucscc.ucsc.edu Beerkezett: Sun Feb 24 02:20:34 EST 1991 Temakor : Hmmm - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - People who come into contact with the Unix system are often told, "If you have trouble, see so-and-so, he's a guru", or "Bob there is a real Unix hacker." What is a "Unix Wizard"? How does s/he differ from a "guru"? To explore these and other questions, here is a draft of the "Unix Hierarchy": NAME DESCRIPTION AND FEATURES beginner - insecure with the concept of a terminal - has yet to learn the basics of vi - has not figured out how to get a directory - still has trouble with typing after each line of input novice - knows that "ls" will produce a directory - uses the editor, but calls it "vye" - has heard of "C" but never used it - has had a bad experience with rm - is wondering how to read mail - is wondering why the person next door seems to like Unix so very much user - uses vi and nroff, but inexpertly - has heard of regular expressions but never seen one. - has figured out that '-' precedes options - has attempted to write a C program but decided to stick with Pascal - is wondering how to move a directory - thinks that dbx is a brand of stereo component - knows how to read mail and is wondering how to read the news knowledgeable - uses nroff with no trouble, and is beginning to learn tbl and eqn - uses grep to search for fixed strings - has figured out that mv(1) will move directories - has learned that "learn" doesn't help - somebody has shown him/her how to write C programs - once used sed but checked the file afterward - watched somebody use dbx once - tried "make" but used spaces instead of tabs expert - uses sed when necessary - uses macros in vi, uses ex when necessary - posts news at every possible opportunity - is still wondering how to successfully reply to mail - writes csh scripts occasionally - writes C programs using vi and compiles with make - has figured out what && and || are for - uses fgrep because somebody said it was faster hacker - uses sed and awk with comfort - uses undocumented features of vi - writes C code with "cat >" and compiles with "!cc" - uses adb because s/he doesn't trust source debuggers - figured out how environment variables are propagated - writes his/her own nroff macros to supplement the standard ones - writes Bourne shell scripts - installs bug fixes from the net - uses egrep because s/he timed it guru - uses m4 and lex with comfort - writes assembler code with "cat >" - uses adb on the kernel while the system is loaded - customizes Unix utilities by patching the source - reads device driver source with breakfast - uses "ed" because "ex" is a Berkeleyism - can answer any unix question after a little thought - uses make for anything that requires two or more commands - has learned how to breach security but no longer needs to try - is putting James Woods/Henry Spencer egrep into his/her next Unix release wizard - writes device drivers with "cat >" - fixes bugs by patching the binaries - posts his/her changes to Unix utilities to the net -- and they work - can tell what question you are about to ask, and answer it - writes his/her own troff macro packages - is on a first-name basis with Dennis, Bill, Josh, Gene, Erik, Henry, Jenny, and Ken. =============================================== Felado : hidas@cernvm.bitnet Beerkezett: Sun Feb 24 04:41:11 EST 1991 Temakor : felolvadt mirelit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Egyaltalan nem vagyok szakertoje a kerdesnek, de annyit szeretnek hozzatenni, hogy ha fagyasztjak az anya- got, akkor kristalyok (jelenleg jeg) novekednek benne. Minel lassabb a hutes, annal nagyobb kristalyok, azaz an- nall kevesebb a racshiba. Gyemantot tehat lassu hutessel erdemes csinalni, a szerves anyagok hutesenel azonban a nagy kristalyok atszurhatjak a sejtfalat. Minel lassab tehat a hutes, annal nagyobb a sejtroncsolas, a sejtfal annal kevesbe vedi a sejtet a kulso behatasok, igy a bak- teriumok ellen. Mivel nulla ido alatti hutes lehetetlen, ezert sejtroncsolas mindig van. A hutes ideje a hutendo targy es kornyezete homersekletkulonbsegetol, valamint a hutendo targy fajhojetol es a kornyezettel valo hoat- adasi tenyezojetol fugg. Ha viszont egyszer megfagyott az elelmiszer akkor utana mar a homersekletete nem nagyon szamit, mert a bakteriumok szaporodasahoz nedves kornyezet, azaz folyekony viz kell. Elpusztulni persze lehet, hogy nem pusztulnak el, sot a gyorshutes oket is jobban megorzi, mint a lassu. Felengedes utan viszont gyors elfogyasztas- sal vagy fozessel kell artalmatlanna tenni oket. Az elmon- dottak alapjan vilagos, hogy a melyhutes igazabol lenye- get tekintve gyorshutes. Tisztelettel Hidas Pal =============================================== Felado : szidar@tucson.sie.arizona.edu Beerkezett: Sun Feb 24 19:08:38 EST 1991 Temakor : London - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Kedves TIPP Olvasook! Julius veegeen egy itteni kinai kolleegaaval megaallnaank Londonban 2-3 napra egy konferencia utaan. Van valaki a TIPP olvasook koezuel aki, vagy egy joo baraatja Londonban , vagy koezvetlen koernyeekeen lakik ees felvehetneenk vele a kapcsolatot szaallaas ees laatnivaloo uegyben? 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